We had our Dgroup with my High school friends(Porjan) and Krisa was assigned to lead the topic; "Assurance Of Salvation" which is also part of the topic in our Won By One for our Dgroup in CCF every thursday. In God's grace krisa smoothly delivered the message of course with the Holy Spirit guiding her. but in the end of our discussion we had some small talk with the question of "What your uncertain things right now?" all of us answer what those situations and things that happened for us to make uncertain. it is also good for us to hear so that we can pray for each one.
But one of our friend who is also a Christian raise his point of view towards the discussion. He said that we have different learning towards Salvation. He actually didn't believe that Once Saved Always Saved. that is why that topic brought up. He even mentioned the there is a bible verse that we should Workout Our Salvation i got worried at first but i tried to catch up the situation so that there will be no Confusion regarding what krisa discussed awhile ago. I didn't directly agree nor disagree with his thoughts but i rather told them the importance that we read bible and the continuous learning for his word so that we will not be deceived. I Didn't try to answer because:
1) I dont want to create some arguments or exchange thoughts that will bring anyone to confusion especially some of us are starting to learn the word of God.
2) I want to talk to him personally in regards of my point of view but i also thought that maybe it is good to answer him if i know where to find all the bible verses that i know will prove our case.
3) I even thought to submit myself by believing in him, I realized that he is a man, i just learned from the bible that they are the one who should lead women. i dont want to correct him because i felt that i have no rights.
that's why when i got home i started to go back with the bible verses. i even looked for the bible verse stating that We should WORKOUT OUR SALVATION. it is not to prove him wrong but it is also for my spiritual growth i want to test if the knowledge that i know is from God or i was just deceived with lies. I am not saying that i am correct and they are wronged or vice versa. but i want to assure this teaching through the Bible.
So then, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your salvation with fear and trembling; for it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to work for His good pleasure.… - (Philippians 2:12-13)
I am not happy that some thought that the verse that Paul wants to deliver in Philippians 2:12-13 is When you accept Jesus as Lord and savior you should still work to maintain your salvation. i am a bit sad that i didn't think about this one awhile ago so that i can correct him or even just give him an option on what to believe for. but i am more sad knowing that idea for salvation which is FAITH + WORK = Salvation
it is like (JESUS + YOU as a Co-Savior = Salvation)
it is only shows that you are the one who maintain your salvation and not the works of Christ Alone!
We need a Savior! we need someone to restore the relationship with God. but if we can workout our own salvation then why the Lord Jesus have to die on the cross? so then, if we are a Co-Savior that we can even maintain or workout our salvation then you are telling that we are equally to God?
this will be the Probably reason why they don't believe in Once saved always saved:
Once saved always saved! we didn't want to believe in this because people might think that "Oh, so we're saved already because we accept Jesus Christ as our personal Lord and savior! why not go out and have some sin" If this is your attitude right now I am telling you "You Should doubt your faith!" because if you really accept and believe for what He did for you on the cross it will not lead you for those hateful things of God but He will lead you to repent and He will transform you.
"Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come. (2 corinthians 5:17)
Once saved always saved! "It can be abused by a lot of people. if you will let people know that doctrine they will not be afraid to have sin". But then, Who are you to judge those people? God gave us the knowledge about Him through His word but yet you refuse to share the message thinking that it is the right thing to discipline people.You deny to share the words without thinking that you are the one who making them blind in the Truth. Man needs a sure Salvation he is helplessly and hopelessly lost in the ruin of sin. Man can't save himself that's why we need a Savior! We need Jesus Christ.
"There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?" - (James 4:12)
Once saved always saved! what we are saying is that. "If you accept Him as Lord and savior you are already saved! but you can lose your salvation if you sin again to God" first, why did the Lord saved you? Because we are a sinner, we sinned against Him. that's why the Lord have to take all the suffers, pain and death on the cross just to saved all of us. Then after your salvation, nagkasala ka ulit, hindi ba niya inako yun? bakit hindi ka na naman saved?. His sufferings and death on the cross is more than enough payment to redeemed us. so why not being saved at once by God is impossible? GOD's forgiveness is not given on installment. Jesus paid our sins. ONCE and For All. and like what i have discussed above, if your mind setting is to Okay to have a sin YOU SHOULD REALLY DOUBT YOUR FAITH! because if you really accept Him as Lord and Savior you will not continue to sin because you know that it is not pleasing to Him. Yes! we Christians fall for sin sometimes but in God's grace we stand again from that fall. and try to live on how God wants us to. We are not perfect but we are forgiven! the Spirit is willing but the flesh is weak (Matthew 26:41)
"So I am not really the one who does this thing; rather it is the sin that lives in me." -(Romans 7:17)
So what do you think is the problem? ang mag ma-matter nalang dito if your Acceptance to Jesus as Savior and Lord is real. so, it is really the relationship between you and Lord. and even your life can prove that kung nagiging fruitful ka.
Ang Salvation hindi ini-earn! it is a free gift from God. parang blessings! you will not do good works to earn blessings because the truth is YOU ARE ALREADY BLESSED sa sobrang blessed mo nakakagawa ka ng good works.
when we believe in Christ, He gave us all the merits of what He has done. We become righteous because of our faith. when we believe, we become righteous because of our faith in Christ. that is the good news. if you cannot be made righteous by believing, then you have to become righteous by working, by doing it yourself. the question is, can you?
Many verses in bible prove that it is true. (clarification: Does your acceptance to what Jesus Christ did for you on the cross is real? Did you really accept him as Lord and savior wholeheartedly? if Yes, here are some verses that will prove our Security in God.
"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven." -(Matthew 7:21)
What is the WILL of the Father?
So they asked him,"What can we do in order to do what God wants us to do?" Jesus Answered," What God wants you to do is to believe in the one he sent." -(John 6:28-29)
And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ ONCE FOR ALL". (Heb. 10:10)
- "The death He died, He died to sin ONCE FOR ALL; but the life He lives, He lives to God." (Romans 6:10)
- "For Christ also suffered ONCE for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive in the Spirit". (1 Peter 3:18)
- "Unlike the other high priests, he does not need to offer sacrifices day after day, first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He sacrificed for their sins ONCE FOR ALL when he offered himself."(Heb. 7:27)
- "so Christ was sacrificed ONCE to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him" (Heb. 9:28)
- it is FINISHED! (John 19:28-30)
Father God, we want to thank you that it is not based on our works, obedience, purity that we have been saved. but because of the finished work of Christ on the cross. Lord Jesus thank you that you gave us the right to become children of God. and thank you Father God that you demonstrated your Love through sending your one and only son Jesus Christ that while we are still sinners CHRIST DIED FOR US.